I first learned about this Haggard fellow from terry's blog, and when i watch the video of the pastor, that fell short of the glory, (haggard) I thought that he was alittle strange (not to mention he was oblivious to some of the things dawkins was talking about) . Now I know why, he was living a lie (in the evangelical eyes) and leading a church of 15,000 people, who breathed off his every word. I guess under the circumstances i would be alittle strange as well